docs: Herdr on Tailscale SSH, with linger as the real socket fix
Rewrites the Herdr doc to match what was actually built. The machine now targets root@100.100.208.69 over Tailscale SSH instead of the LAN address, so it no longer depends on the mikrotik-tailscale subnet router. The "core did not start within 5 s" failure was the hc core socket living under XDG_RUNTIME_DIR = /run/user/0, which pam_elogind creates and destroys per login session. loginctl enable-linger root keeps that directory alive, so every client agrees on the default socket path. The earlier Mac-side env pin fixed the CLI but broke the GUI's plain-ssh "Add a machine"; linger supersedes it and the wrapper is kept but unused. Also records the stale ~/.ssh/config entry that pointed unraid at the deleted 100.100.208.70 on port 422, which is what the GUI had been listing, and the go-script block that restores both the binary and linger at boot. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 5 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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@@ -5,140 +5,140 @@ programs and coding agents in terminals that stay alive, including on remote
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machines reached over SSH. The Unraid server is registered as the machine
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machines reached over SSH. The Unraid server is registered as the machine
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`unraid`.
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`unraid`.
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Added 2026-11-03.
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Set up 2026-11-03.
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## Registration
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## Current configuration
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The transport is a wrapper on the Mac, not a plain SSH target:
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```bash
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```bash
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herdr-core machine add --via ~/.local/bin/herdr-via-unraid --name unraid --install
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herdr-core machine add root@100.100.208.69 --name unraid --install
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```
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```
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```
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```
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unraid | state: connected | host: xtrm-unraid | hc: 0.1.17
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unraid | state: connected | target: root@100.100.208.69 | hc: 0.1.17
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```
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```
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Verify with `herdr-core exec --on unraid 'hostname'` → `XTRM-Unraid`.
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Verify with `herdr-core exec --on unraid 'hostname'` → `XTRM-Unraid`.
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## Why a wrapper and not `machine add root@192.168.10.20:422`
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The target is Unraid's own Tailscale node over Tailscale SSH (port 22), not the
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LAN address. Consequences:
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`hc` starts a core process (`herdr-core serve`) on the remote and talks to it
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- It does not depend on the `mikrotik-tailscale` subnet router, which has failed
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over a unix socket under `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`. On Unraid that resolves to
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before (see the 2026-08-10 recovery note in `docs/09-TAILSCALE-VPN.md`). Only
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`/run/user/0`, which **elogind creates and destroys per login session**. So:
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Unraid itself and the tailnet need to be healthy.
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- It works identically at home and away, with no configuration to change.
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Tailscale still picks the efficient path — on the LAN it reports
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`direct 192.168.10.20:41725` rather than relaying.
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- Authentication is tailnet identity, not an SSH key. Access therefore rests on
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the tailnet SSH policy, which was set to `accept` on 2026-11-03. Under the
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previous `check` policy this would have demanded a browser re-auth every
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~12 h and stalled.
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## Two problems had to be solved first
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### 1. The socket path — `core did not start within 5 s`
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`hc` runs a core process (`herdr-core serve`) on the remote and talks to it over
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a unix socket under `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`. On Unraid that is `/run/user/0`, which
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**`pam_elogind.so` creates and destroys per login session**. So:
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1. `machine add` opens an SSH session and starts the core. The socket lands in
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1. `machine add` opens an SSH session and starts the core. The socket lands in
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`/run/user/0/herdr-core/default.sock`.
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`/run/user/0/herdr-core/default.sock`.
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2. The session ends. elogind removes `/run/user/0`, taking the socket with it.
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2. The session ends. elogind removes `/run/user/0` with the socket inside it.
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3. The next client connects in a new session, finds a fresh empty
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3. The next client connects in a new session, finds a fresh empty
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`/run/user/0`, and fails with `core did not start within 5 s`.
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`/run/user/0`, and times out after 5 s.
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The core is not at fault — it keeps running, holding a socket that has been
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The core is not at fault — it keeps running on a socket that has been unlinked.
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unlinked from the filesystem. `core.log` stays 0 bytes because the failure is
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`core.log` stays 0 bytes because the failure is client side. Unraid also prints
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client side. Unraid also warns `hc: no systemd user manager here: the core ends
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`hc: no systemd user manager here: the core ends with whatever started it`,
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with whatever started it`, which is why `hc` cannot supervise its own core here.
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which is why `hc` cannot supervise its own core here.
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The fix is to pin `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR` to a path that outlives a login session.
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**Fix: `loginctl enable-linger root`.** Unraid ships `loginctl` even without
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Doing it in the `--via` transport keeps the change on the Mac and leaves the
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systemd, and linger keeps `/run/user/0` alive across logouts, so the default
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server's shell configuration untouched.
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socket path is stable and every client agrees on it.
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`~/.local/bin/herdr-via-unraid`:
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An earlier attempt pinned `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/var/run/herdr-rt` from a Mac-side
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`--via` wrapper. That worked for the CLI but broke the GUI's "Add a machine",
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which uses plain ssh and so looked in `/run/user/0`:
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```sh
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```
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#!/bin/sh
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the core listens at /var/run/herdr-rt/herdr-core/default.sock,
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# Herdr appends the shell line to run as the last argument.
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but this shell looks at /run/user/0/herdr-core/default.sock
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exec ssh -T -o BatchMode=yes -o ConnectTimeout=10 \
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hint: set HC_SOCKET to the first path
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-p 422 -i "$HOME/.ssh/id_ed25519_unraid" root@192.168.10.20 \
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"export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/var/run/herdr-rt; mkdir -p \"\$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR\" && chmod 700 \"\$XDG_RUNTIME_DIR\"; $*"
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```
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```
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## Working from outside the LAN
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Linger supersedes that. The wrapper is retained at
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`~/.local/bin/herdr-via-unraid` (LAN primary, Tailscale fallback, chosen by a
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TCP probe before any ssh runs so a failed attempt cannot consume stdin) but is
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**not in use**. To go back to it: `herdr-core machine rm unraid`, then
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`machine add --via ~/.local/bin/herdr-via-unraid --name unraid`.
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No extra configuration is needed. The transport targets `192.168.10.20:422`, and
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### 2. A stale `~/.ssh/config` entry
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a Mac away from home reaches that over Tailscale via the `mikrotik-tailscale`
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subnet router, which is primary for `192.168.10.0/24`. This is not a special
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remote mode — it is the same path used on VLAN 20 at home, since that is also a
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different subnet from Unraid.
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Prerequisites on the client:
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The GUI lists candidates from `~/.ssh/config`, which still held the Tailscale IP
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of the node deleted on 2026-11-03 — and pointed it at a port that was never open
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there:
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| Requirement | Check |
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```
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Host 100.100.208.70 unraid # node no longer exists
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| Tailscale running and logged in | `tailscale status` |
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HostName 100.100.208.70
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| Accepts the hAP's subnet routes | `tailscale debug prefs` shows `"RouteAll": true` |
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Port 422 # sshd binds only 192.168.10.20 and 192.168.31.250
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| Route resolves over Tailscale | `route -n get 192.168.10.20` reports `utun*`, not `en0` |
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```
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### Fallback leg
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Replaced with two correct entries (backup at `~/.ssh/config.bak-20261103`):
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The LAN path depends on the `mikrotik-tailscale` container, which has failed
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```
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before (see the 2026-08-10 recovery note in `docs/09-TAILSCALE-VPN.md`). If it
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Host unraid # LAN address; routes over Tailscale when away
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dies while Unraid stays up, `192.168.10.20` becomes unreachable over Tailscale
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HostName 192.168.10.20
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but Unraid's own node does not.
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User root
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Port 422
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IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_ed25519_unraid
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So the wrapper probes `192.168.10.20:422` first and falls back to Tailscale SSH
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Host unraid-ts 100.100.208.69 # Tailscale SSH: port 22, no key
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on `100.100.208.69:22`. The probe runs **before** any ssh starts, because a
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HostName 100.100.208.69
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failed first attempt would consume stdin and corrupt the retry. It costs about
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User root
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245 ms on the success path. `HERDR_VIA_TARGET=lan|ts` forces a leg for testing;
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both were verified 2026-11-03.
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The fallback leg is fully unattended since the tailnet SSH ACL was set to
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`accept` on 2026-11-03. Verified the same day with `BatchMode=yes`: a plain
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command, a `-L` port forward (HTTP 302 from the Unraid web UI) and the Herdr leg
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itself all ran without a prompt.
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## Why the LAN address is the primary and not the Tailscale IP
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`--via` requires a transport that passes bytes untouched and **asks nothing**.
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When this was set up, Tailscale SSH sat behind the default tailnet ACL
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`action: "check"`, which demanded browser re-authentication every ~12 h — fine
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interactively, fatal for a long-lived Herdr connection. That ACL was changed to
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`accept` on 2026-11-03, so either address would now serve.
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The LAN address stays primary anyway: key auth on `192.168.10.20:422` depends on
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nothing but the SSH key, while Tailscale SSH depends on the tailnet policy
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staying permissive. From outside the LAN it still travels over Tailscale via the
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MikroTik subnet router (see `docs/09-TAILSCALE-VPN.md`), so there is no loss.
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## Reboot persistence
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## Reboot persistence
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Unraid runs `/` from `rootfs` (RAM) and `/run` as tmpfs, so both of these are
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Unraid runs `/` from `rootfs` (RAM) and `/run` as tmpfs, so all of this is lost
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lost on every reboot:
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on reboot and is restored by `/boot/config/go`:
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| Path | Lost on reboot | Recovery |
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| Path | Lost on reboot | Restored by |
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| `/var/run/herdr-rt` | yes | self-healing — the `--via` wrapper recreates it on every connection |
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| `/root/.local/bin/herdr-core` | yes | `install -m 755` from `/boot/config/herdr/herdr-core` |
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| `/root/.local/bin/herdr-core` | yes | **manual** — `herdr-core machine update`, or `machine add --install` again |
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| `/var/lib/elogind/linger/root` | yes | `loginctl enable-linger root` |
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| `/run/user/0` | yes | recreated by pam_elogind at first login, then held open by linger |
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To make the binary survive, stash it on the boot flash and restore it from the
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The `go` block:
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`go` script, in the same style as the existing `install`/`cp` lines there:
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```bash
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mkdir -p /boot/config/herdr
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cp /root/.local/bin/herdr-core /boot/config/herdr/herdr-core
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```
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then append to `/boot/config/go`:
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```bash
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```bash
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# Herdr (hc) remote machines. Unraid runs / from RAM, so the hc binary installed
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# Herdr (hc) remote machines. Unraid runs / from RAM, so the hc binary installed
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# by `herdr-core machine add --install` is lost on reboot. Restore it from /boot.
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# by `herdr-core machine add --install` is lost on reboot. Restore it from /boot.
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# The runtime dir is not restored here: the Mac-side --via wrapper exports
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# XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/var/run/herdr-rt and creates it on every connection, because
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# the default /run/user/0 is destroyed per login session by elogind.
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mkdir -p /root/.local/bin
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mkdir -p /root/.local/bin
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install -m 755 /boot/config/herdr/herdr-core /root/.local/bin/herdr-core 2>/dev/null
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install -m 755 /boot/config/herdr/herdr-core /root/.local/bin/herdr-core 2>/dev/null
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# Keep /run/user/0 alive across logouts. pam_elogind creates and destroys it per
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# login session, and the hc core's socket lives there, so without linger the
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# socket disappears with the session that started the core and every later
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# client fails with "core did not start within 5 s". The linger marker is
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# /var/lib/elogind/linger/root, and /var/lib is RAM here, so it must be re-set
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# at every boot.
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loginctl enable-linger root 2>/dev/null
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`install -m 755` matters: `/boot` is FAT32 and does not carry the execute bit.
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`install -m 755` matters: `/boot` is FAT32 and carries no execute bit.
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**Status: applied 2026-11-03.** The `go` script was backed up to
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Applied 2026-11-03, `sh -n /boot/config/go` parses cleanly. Backups of the go
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`/boot/config/go.bak-20261103-203916` first.
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script are at `/boot/config/go.bak-*`. The binary restore was verified without
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rebooting, by deleting `/root/.local/bin/herdr-core` and running the line by
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hand: it came back `-rwxr-xr-x` reporting `hc 0.1.17`.
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Verified without rebooting, by deleting `/root/.local/bin/herdr-core` and running
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## Notes
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the `go` line by hand: the binary came back `-rwxr-xr-x` and reported `hc 0.1.17`.
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Herdr stayed `connected` throughout.
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One note if you ever call it over a bare SSH command: `~/.local/bin` is not on
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- `~/.local/bin` is not on `PATH` in a non-interactive shell on Unraid, so
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`PATH` in a non-interactive shell on Unraid, so `herdr-core` resolves only by
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`herdr-core` resolves only by absolute path there. Herdr itself always uses
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absolute path. Herdr itself always uses the absolute path, so this does not
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the absolute path, so this does not affect normal use.
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affect normal use.
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- Adding a machine that `hc` already knows is refused as a duplicate — it keys
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on the core id (`3d4a2397fcb6…`), not the address. Re-pointing an existing
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change a target in place.
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- Trade-off recorded in the docs: `check` acted as a second factor, so a compromised tailnet device now reaches root on Unraid without a further step. Accepted because every node in the tailnet is owner-controlled hardware.
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- Trade-off recorded in the docs: `check` acted as a second factor, so a compromised tailnet device now reaches root on Unraid without a further step. Accepted because every node in the tailnet is owner-controlled hardware.
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### Tooling: Unraid registered as a Herdr (hc) machine
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### Tooling: Unraid registered as a Herdr (hc) machine
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- **[SERVICE]** Final state: the machine `unraid` targets `root@100.100.208.69` over Tailscale SSH, so it no longer depends on the `mikrotik-tailscale` subnet router. Works identically at home and away; Tailscale still reports `direct 192.168.10.20:41725` on the LAN rather than relaying.
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- **[SERVICE]** Root cause of `core did not start within 5 s` was the hc core socket living under `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR` = `/run/user/0`, which `pam_elogind.so` creates and destroys per login session. Fixed properly with `loginctl enable-linger root`, which keeps that directory alive so every client agrees on the default socket path. An earlier Mac-side `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR` pin fixed the CLI but broke the GUI's plain-ssh "Add a machine"; linger supersedes it and the wrapper is retained but unused.
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- **[SERVICE]** `/boot/config/go` now restores the hc binary **and** re-applies linger at boot, since `/`, `/run` and `/var/lib` are all RAM on Unraid. `sh -n` clean, backups at `/boot/config/go.bak-*`.
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- **[SERVICE]** Corrected a stale `~/.ssh/config` entry that still pointed `unraid` at the deleted node `100.100.208.70` on port 422 — an address and port combination that never worked, since sshd binds only 192.168.10.20 and 192.168.31.250. Replaced with `unraid` (LAN, key, 422) and `unraid-ts` (100.100.208.69, Tailscale SSH, 22). This stale entry was also what the Herdr GUI was listing.
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- **[SERVICE]** Unraid added to Herdr as the machine `unraid` (`hc` 0.1.17 on the remote). `herdr-core machine add` had been failing with `core did not start within 5 s`: `hc` puts its core socket under `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`, which on Unraid is `/run/user/0` — a directory elogind creates and destroys per login session, so the socket disappeared the moment the session that started the core ended. The core kept running with an unlinked socket, and `core.log` stayed empty because the failure is client side.
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- **[SERVICE]** Unraid added to Herdr as the machine `unraid` (`hc` 0.1.17 on the remote). `herdr-core machine add` had been failing with `core did not start within 5 s`: `hc` puts its core socket under `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR`, which on Unraid is `/run/user/0` — a directory elogind creates and destroys per login session, so the socket disappeared the moment the session that started the core ended. The core kept running with an unlinked socket, and `core.log` stayed empty because the failure is client side.
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- **[SERVICE]** Fixed from the Mac only, via `~/.local/bin/herdr-via-unraid`, a `--via` transport that exports `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/var/run/herdr-rt` on every connection. Nothing on the server was changed. Uses key auth on 192.168.10.20:422 rather than Tailscale SSH, because `--via` needs a transport that asks nothing and the default tailnet ACL `check` would demand periodic browser re-auth.
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- **[SERVICE]** Fixed from the Mac only, via `~/.local/bin/herdr-via-unraid`, a `--via` transport that exports `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/var/run/herdr-rt` on every connection. Nothing on the server was changed. Uses key auth on 192.168.10.20:422 rather than Tailscale SSH, because `--via` needs a transport that asks nothing and the default tailnet ACL `check` would demand periodic browser re-auth.
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- **[SERVICE]** Reboot caveat: `/` is rootfs (RAM) and `/run` is tmpfs on Unraid, so `/root/.local/bin/herdr-core` is lost at every boot and needs `herdr-core machine update` to restore. A `/boot/config/go` entry now restores it at boot from `/boot/config/herdr/herdr-core` (`install -m 755`, because /boot is FAT32 and carries no execute bit). Applied 2026-11-03, with the go script backed up to `go.bak-20261103-203916` and verified by deleting the binary and running the line by hand. Detail in `docs/14-HERDR-REMOTE-MACHINES.md`.
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- **[SERVICE]** Reboot caveat: `/` is rootfs (RAM) and `/run` is tmpfs on Unraid, so `/root/.local/bin/herdr-core` is lost at every boot and needs `herdr-core machine update` to restore. A `/boot/config/go` entry now restores it at boot from `/boot/config/herdr/herdr-core` (`install -m 755`, because /boot is FAT32 and carries no execute bit). Applied 2026-11-03, with the go script backed up to `go.bak-20261103-203916` and verified by deleting the binary and running the line by hand. Detail in `docs/14-HERDR-REMOTE-MACHINES.md`.
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